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CDC recommends the booster WIDELY after ACIP meeting | A Professor Reflects on this action

Vinay Prasad, MD MPH; Physician & Associate Professor

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  1. 00:00 Recommending Omicron boosters for all.
    01:00 Data To support BA.4/5

    01:46 Simplicity, one size fits all

    02:12 Out of simplicity we dont just give everyone chemotherapy

    02:34 Level of evidence different for 90 yo aged care to 20 yr athlete

    03:36 Mouse data not sufficient

    03:50 Millions of people have had BA4/5

    04:20 CDC "There's no wrong time to get a booster

    04:40 It is clear the companies have a corporate interest here
    THE CORPORATE INTEREST IS TO HAVE A YEARLY SHOT.

    04:57 Achieved a regulatory standard via influenza

    05:03 Allow imunogenicity data from animals to be used for human approved

    05:15 Maybe we should be asking better questions about flu vax

    05:40 History of medicine and powerful important people creating regulatory standards

    06:20 since 1960 Have improved the conduct of randomized trials

    06:30 Vinays Polls, Who gets the vax, scenarios

    07:08 Getting the right answers

    07:30 Risk of shots diminished as older up side greater

    07:45 Even there, not impossible to run a randomized controlled trial

    08:00 A pragmatic control trial design

    08:07 What we're forgetting TRANSMISSION IS NOT GOING TO BE HALTED BY THE NEW BOOSTER

    08:16 BECAUSE NONE OF THE OTHER VARIANTS WERE

    08:20 Variant escape from the new thing OTHERWISE THE YEARLY BOOSTER MODEL FLOPS

    08:25 Peter Marx(ist the fascist) has written that in JAMA

    08:30 THE GOAL OF THIS VACCINE IS TO LOWER THE RISK OF SEVERE DISEASE HOSPITALISATION

    08:35 Back to the (FUNDEMENTALLY FLAWED) OBSERVATIONAL STUDIES as proof

    08:40 All Biased due to Vax cult "me first" types healthier and wealthier at base line

    08:55 curves for mortality seperate faster than it takes the 7 to 10 days for vax to take effect

    09:09 The health "VACCINE ME" effect

    09:20 BIASES are SO STRONG you CANNOT EXCEPT OBSERVATIONAL STUDIES

    09:25 YOU NEED RANDOMIZED CONTROL TRIALS (**AND DIRECT CHALLENGE STUDIES** screw this hiding behind ethics BS fraud)

    09:40 Paul Offit And Vinay agree THE YOUNG DONT NEED BOOSTER

    09:44 It reckless and dangerous to prove it for the young

    09:48 Rational of one size fits all IS REALLY STUPID

    10:23 The loss of rational voice Gruber And Crause from the FDA had PRINCIPAL AND INTEGRITY

    10:35 Peter Marx(ist fascist) seems to be taking his ques from government

    10:40 not just this one, ANY WHITE-HOUSE

    10:46 Agenda is not solely for the BETTERMENT OF HEALTH OF THE PEOPLE

    10:53 May have corporate capture (fascists)

    11:00 Political donations, post public role employment

    11:12 The revolving door of individuals

    11:15 FDA commisioner > pfharma consulting; Scott Gotlieb FDA comisioner now board of pfizerfraud; Steve Harn capital venture with intersts in moderna

    11:29 where will they go ? Bob Caitlif, Ashish Jar ????

    11:36 Whitehouse Tsar will he work for a company he interacted with in public position ???

    11:40 TSAR Definition; Power wielding person who is not subject to the rules

    11:52 WHERE WILL ROCHELLE WOLYINSKI GO???

    11:58 All not clear regulators, not evidence based people pre pandemic not know as rigorous thinkers

    12:12 Many published retrospective dubious admin data analysis. You are what you practiced

    12:29 Political calculus; What do we want When do we want it before the mid terms to make us look good

    12:45 PUBLIC HEALTH IS ABOUT THE WELL BEING OF THE PEOPLE AT *ANY* MOMENT IN TIME

    12:49 What can we do ? This is Extremely important issue in the history of medicine

    13:00 Are we going to allow Universities to mandate this product ?

    13:05 IT SHOULD NOT BE MANDATED

    13:05 I WOULD ENCOURAGE LEGAL FORCES
    TO DENY PRIVATE ACTOR THE POWER TO MANDATE VACCINES THAT COME TO MARKET WITH SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY

    13:15 Wake force universities acting before they know human data on punishment of dis-enrollment

    DO WE SERIOUSLY LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT ALLOWS THIS ????

    16:35 Employers should not be allowed to mandate it. Laws to stop them playing doctor.

    14:00 No justification DOES NOT STOP INFECTION or SPREAD in organizations to save the "cant be vaxd"

    14:15 NO 3rd PARTY BENEFIT RATIONALE

    14:20 Last arguments; your individual health benefits; are we comfortable with that reach?

    14:35 Can an employer tell me what to eat at home ???

    14:45 As a 20 yr old man my diet might have more to do with my health than whether i get the n th Dose which has marginal, zero or no benefit at all

    14:56 Long term morbidity and mortality there is no data

    15:00 Terminating fat people who dont adhere to employer mandated diets ??
    Whats next in this dangerous space.

    15:15 Makes no sense; CONTRARY TO AMERICAN VALUES and LEGALITY SHOULD BE QUESTIONED

    15:23 I JUST KNOW ITS BAD MEDICINE MANDATES SHOULD BE USED SPARINGLY, (like eczema cream.) WHEN THE 3rd PARTY BENEFIT OUTWEIGHS THE LOSS OF AUTONOMY to the individual

    15:33 Was never met with any of these vaccines, certainly not one that was only given to 8 mice

    15:38 The FDA is delinquent; creating the worst system imaginable

    15:48 Not having meaningful regulatory standards of safety and efficacy

    16:10 FDA is at sweet spot for profit, worst spot for public health

    16:20 COVID-19 ??? is going to ravage young children HCHIF speaker ??

    16:58 YOU ARE FEAR MONGERING re kids should you even be on this panel

    17:15 We dont have US data but this is what Ontario says. WE ARE BOTH HUMAN BEINGS

    17:45 Can vax or boosting lower long covid ? Whats the definition?

    18:09 If it appear in NMWR you are going to want to read it twice

    18:36 THE "DO GOODERS" with LOW CREDIBILITY EVIDENCE are LOW CREDIBILITY PEOPLE SHOULD BE TREATED as such

    18:40 Just like the definate nay Sayers are low credibility

    19:00 A spectum of response due to the lack of RCTs ie "STRATIFIED"

    19:15 Guber And Crause, right choice for THEM to resign but not for the rest of us

    WE NEEDED THEM TO PUSH BACK

    19:27 over reach by the white house and its a dangerous game; most dont realize just how dangerous

    19:40 And they dont see that they are playing with fire hear.

    Thank you Vinay Prasad

    This is a pretty poor indictment. And after all that you still want to believe that fascism is not a wound deep in the heart of the Empire, if you still want to believe that somewhere Ole "Lets Go" Joe, and Fauci, and all those other names, deep down have your health and best interests at heart, for them to have got it this wrong, for them to push things to this limit,

    then the only thing you can infer is that THEY KNOW THAT Peter Daszak had a hand in this being made in a Chyna BSL2 and it was an accidental leak.

    And if you have lost all faith, then this so called march of mandates can only be the result it was a deliberately manufactured bio-weapon.

    How could they otherwise be so adamant in their stubborn wrongness.

  2. So you are starting to notice the CDC is not acting out of good faith.. you think its a new phenomena just for the boosters? It's been so from day 01 for the very first shot, an inconvenient truth you choose to continue to ignore at a great cost for humanity.

  3. Dr. Prasad,

    My wife has been an ER nurse for the past 8 years. She was working at a hospital near Arizona State University in November of 2019 when the hospital was inundated with young people coming into the ER with Flu-like Symptoms, but whom all tested negative for the actual flu. That same month, she got sick and spread that to me. Not going to lie, I think that was the worst I’ve ever been sick (that I can recall) in all my 50 years on this planet.

    Since then, she has worked at several ERs in AZ and then in Houston Texas, including all through the worst of the pandemic. We both received the original Pfizer vaccine but have not had any boosters. I can’t recall being symptomatic at any time since that time in late 2019 but cannot see a way that we have not since been exposed. I’m hesitant to get boosters at this point since everyone I know that have been double boosted, have still gotten “breakthrough” covid-all without even passing it to their spouses.

  4. Meanwhile I have to wonder about the other 20% or whatever extreme who are going to think like this: Federal funding for vaccines will supposedly run out in December 2022, so how about get a Pfizer Omicron booster ASAP and also get the Moderna booster in December! Cross boostering is now said to be perfectly fine. So the supply of vaccine may be surprisingly both halved and ignored by most people.

  5. I fear that my son's college will mandate this booster. Here in America, in 2022, a father may have to pull his son from a university because the people running the school have lost their collective minds. I pray that it doesn't come to that. But what do I tell my son when I pull him out of his school? I've never wished to be a billionaire, but I do now. Just so I can sue the hell out Massachusetts who are mandating this. And sue the hell out of universities that cares more about virtue signaling and going against Trump than they do caring about their student body. Here we are, in the US, in 2022. @19:20 Maybe you can ask Dr. Offit to ask Grueber/Krause to come on your VPZD podcast. One of the best out there!

  6. VP, I say it every time, you are the man!! I could watch you every day, keep up the good work. You are on the right side of history, everyone on the other side, well, let's just say it won't be a good look.

  7. This whole thing will surely backfiring on these companies. I went from taking the usual vaccines without question prior to the pandemic to not trusting just about anything that comes from these companies. I’m sure they turned many people into anti vaxxers because of the complete lack of integrity. Trust is gone now.

  8. I just started grad school this week and my college is mandating boosters… in the past all nursing students are not allowed any exemption except medical only, but I just received an email from the Dean to prepare for medical exemptions to go away. Yes… that means they plan to force a student to boost against medical advice and discriminate against a person’s medical condition. How is this safe and ethical?

  9. Why are colleges making my student test weekly if a vaccinated student can give and get it too? And no they are not experiencing less severe symptoms. Shouldn't logically all be tested? You would think with all the mask wearing less would be affected by all the gaslighting.

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