Chinese and Western vaccines compared
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-63855508
Big changes, all of a sudden
Live with the virus
Vice-premier, Sun Chunlan
China entering a new situation
Virus ability to cause disease weakening
Lifting most severe Covid policies
End of quarantine camps
People can isolate at home
No more family separations
Close contacts not taken to camps
Strict ban on blocking fire exits
No need to show tests for venues
Less rules on internal travel
Lateral flow tests to replace PCR tests in most areas
Lockdowns continue in smaller more targeted areas
Foreign travel soon
Cases, 30,000 +
Now
Everyone will be exposed
Will the medical system will be overwhelmed?
National Health Commission
All localities, focus on improving the vaccination rate of people aged 60-79,
accelerating the vaccination rate of people aged 80 and above,
and making special arrangements
Prof Ivan Hung, Hong Kong University
The main way for China to exit Covid with the least damage is via vaccination and three doses of vaccination is a must
Hopefully before Chinese New Year (January 22) Rabbit
Sinopharm
Strategic Advisory Group of Experts on Immunization (SAGE)
The vaccine is safe and effective for all individuals aged 18 and above.
Individuals may choose to delay vaccination for 3 months following the infection.
An inactivated vaccine with adjuvant
(that is routinely used in many other vaccines)
with a documented good safety profile, including in pregnant women.
Symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection and efficacy against hospitalization 79%
Does it prevent infection and transmission?
No substantive data
Does it work against new variants of SARS-
CoV-2 virus?
SAGE currently recommends using this vaccine
Not yet been evaluated in the context of circulation of widespread variants of concern.
How does this vaccine compare to other vaccines already in use?
We cannot compare the vaccines head-to-head,
(different approaches taken in designing the respective studies)
but overall, all of the vaccines that have achieved WHO Emergency Use Listing,
are highly effective in preventing severe disease and hospitalization due to COVID-19.
Comparison with Western vaccines
Pfizer original paper
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577
https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577/suppl_file/nejmoa2034577_appendix.pdf
BNT162b2 was 95% effective in preventing Covid-19
Later analysis from
Efficacy and effectiveness of covid-19 vaccine – absolute vs. relative risk reduction
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9115787/
AAR, Pfizer, during the trial period,
0.84%
AAR
https://patient.info/news-and-features/calculating-absolute-risk-and-relative-risk
Absolute risk of a disease is your risk of developing the disease over a time period.
Five to six-months update, AAR
BNT162b2 3.7%
mRNA1273 (Moderna-NIH) 4.9%
Let’s see how many get myocarditis and all associated heart damage from a real traditional vaccine. I don’t wish this on anyone but for comparison sake. I bet only the west ends up with a worse epidemic of heart disease in the next 5 years and they’ll blame it on global warming, meat and cow farts!
Hi John you can look Indonesia's data , here we took Sinovac (Sinopharm) vaccine arround 85% , the rest is AZ , Pfizer and Moderna.
I can say sinovac vaccine helps alot to decrease the severity and mortality , but nit against the infection itself.
In my observations all of people I know here already got covid naturally mostly after fully vaccinated. I can say it is endemic now.
China policy to hide its populations from natural infections especially after most of them being vaccinated is just wrong policy , China will be the last country to enter endemic phase , we have to live with it
Mrange
"They must have forgotten to include the data"
Why do I suddenly have a face of a cute cat with big eyes?
They lied and said it would take too long. But do research, you can also create a traditional vaccine in 6 months. And they had the patents before 2019 for the mRNA versions.
Grrrr I can feel the spike boiling in my blood! We should have had a choice. 1. On whether to get vaxxed. 2. On taking a traditional attenuated real vaccine Vs. Experimental gene therapy.
For a mild flu – think I'll still rely on nature's natural immune protection. Am done with most jabs
Check out the comment from unclezeppy. So all the right wing conspiracy theorists were right all along. Not the dummies MSM accused them to be.
The J and J was not an mRNA vax either right? Was it a traditional vaccine? How does it rate?
to 2:09 new variants please explain the old variants including the common cold are on holiday or run out of something explain now omega is rumpand in germany it is the big brother of omicron
Thanks for the info. Just one thing to clarify: Most Chinese are not much affected by COVID except the first one month of the pandemic and after the Omicron outbreak. Before the Omicron Wave most Chinese can go anywhere to enjoy holiday and go to restaurant etc. Sporadic lockdown (mostly the border town and big cities with international air traffic) only affect a very very small population of the country in term of percentage. This is quite similar to situation in HK/Australia/NZ/Taiwan. Of course thing get worst during the Omicron Wave. Now the challenge is how to avoid death of the old ages like what we experienced in HK a few months ago. My info from people in Guangdong is that they are mobilization vaccination of the elderly in the last few weeks. Seems to me that they are timing this mobilization with the outbreak to achieve the best effectiveness.
to 1:11 yes aspiration it is important i learned this 66 years ago
THIS WHY JOHN $$$$$$$$$$ LOT AND LOTS OF EASY DOLLARS FOR THESE BIG COMPANIES IN AMERICA .
#12k👍🤔🤷🤣I'm 66 and got the J&J a month before my 66th birthday. I had some wild cardiac symptoms and treated them with Tenormin generic is atenolol 50mg.
It was very unpleasant and I still have night time symptoms occasionally. I got the 2nd half of the moderna as a booster and got a 102+ fever. Not taking the latest brew!
The Chinese nation has had to constantly contend with disease throughout its thousands of years of history. From ancient times to today, the country has accumulated a wealth of experience from efforts to prevent and control the harm caused by disease, particularly severe infectious diseases. It is worth looking back on this experience to see what lessons can be drawn from it.
Circuit breakers, quarantine or lockdowns have been used by the Chinese throughout its thousands years of history to prevent spread of infections diseases
China has a history of well written record of epidemic prevention from the ancient oracle-bone inscriptions, the earliest written records in Chinese history, show measures that were taken to fight disease thousands of years ago.
There are experts who have stated from the very start that it is impossible to vaccinate one's way out of pandemic of a respiratory virus.
What happened to the traditional Valneva vaccine? It was on its way to get European approval but things have gone quiet.
I wonder why the UK government dropped Valneva as an alternative vaccine. I do have lingering suspicion. The mRNA vaccine technology will now be used in vaccines for other pathogens; that should be of great concern.
At 1:18 1st, wrong way to give this jab, followed by correct way IN SLOW MOTION how to properly aspirate to make sure you're not in a vein, before injecting this vaccine. Thank you for showing this, Dr John Campbell!
Had 4 jabs of sinovac with my 87 year old mum. Later Both of us had covid. Symptoms were so mild. No fever or sore throat just some runny nose. I was still working in my orchard during the infection.
I'll tell you why the west didn't use a traditional vaccine….because they wanted to kill the host, not save them. One day soon you will understand the truth, John.
I was just unsubscribed from your channel for some reason… I was wondering why I hadnt been seeing your videos in my feed.
I can't help but think that if we'd either promoted inactivated vaccine development or rejected mRNA options then we'd all currently be a lot closer to actually ending this whole sorry affair.
You take facts where they suit your view but make assumptions on other areas e.g. Chinese health care being able to handle a nation wide wave
I want to say that you have to be very careful when you see everything related to the Chinese government. For example, Chinese vaccines. If it's effective, then why are so many countries switched from Chinese vaccines to other mRNA vaccines?
In China, we cannot get any reliable experiment data about these vaccines. The Chinese government also heavily censors information or even discussion about the effectiveness of these vaccines. Some people get seriously ill after being vaccinated, e.g. acute leukemia, and they cannot even post this information online without being censored or attacked by government shills. The government or the manufacturer of the vaccines even pays as much as 200,000 cny to silence these ill people. Personally, I don't believe that any Chinese vaccine is good for my health.
The absolute risk reduction number shown is from early 2021 when Covid was rare. It is misinformation to present this now in late 2022.
nooo.. why do we want old proven and cheap methods, we want new, lab bred never tested new technology so that we can pay more and let the rich to be richer, national debt to be higher and print more money so other countries can pick up the bill while we at it. You know those side effects? likely you need more treatment and pill for that, talking about an apple seed grown into an apple farm lol
Have taken no vacc, no one in my family has taken any vacc.
My whole family got omikron about a year ago, 7 days later same as normal.
No lock downs, no mask.
What is known about the Johnson & Johnson vaccine that is traditional style compared to the Pfizer and moderna mRNA vaccines what is the difference in the outcomes
I wonder if they're seeing massive blood clots in their people in China? I'd guess probably not.
Dr. Campbell. A Pfizer spokesman told the EU parliament that they had never tested their product for preventing transmission. It makes me wonder what the primary objective of the vaccine was. To test positive for antibodies? Does it really reduce risk of death in novel virus exposure?
The Chinese were slaves of the Communist Party of Xi Jinping.
Chinese slaves were injected with fake vaccines for three years,
The Chinese have no immunity to the Chinese military bioweapon virus, SARS-CoV-2. In China, which has stopped the cover-up operation of the Wuhan virus research incident, the number of infected people will increase and 100 million people will die.
The UK had the Valneva vaccine, to be produced by Scotland and France — for some odd reason Boris Johnson cancelled the massive order the government had in with them; and then, surprisingly, a few months later pfizer bought them up…
thank you, once again Dr John..extremely interesting …..and shame on our pharmaceuticl companies for their greediness…I'm sorry but lets call it like it is…
This guy – no matter how you slice it – is a pro-vaccine, pro-Big Pharma, shill for the medical cartel.
At this point anyone still considering taking any of this poison has to be out of their tiny mind.🤔
With Fauci's funding gain of function research in Wuhan I doubt there's a real vaccine. It's a supercharged virus that can evolve when it's existence is threatened. It's a super bioweapon paid for by U.S tax payers and an ultimate cash cow for big pharma.
Mexico will have a vaccine for bovid. …they have been studying it for the past 2 years.
Fewer rules as they are countable.
"Think of the oppression the Chinese people have been under for all these three years". Westerners will never know the mentality of self sacrifice so that others may live. John probably never had someone close to him die, just because he refused to self isolate. Good for you John like most westerners who think only of themselves. 1.1 Million Americans died from covid. I believe Westerners have not learned to be supportive of others, the next time around more will died if everyone is like Dr. John Campbell. Sir, you are NOT an expert on China. There is less ICU beds per thousands of people compared to the US. With 1.4 Billion people getting infected, hospitals will surely be overwhelmed. What you are doing is misinformation and as a Doctor, you should be more careful in presenting your thoughts.
The Chinese government actually, genuinely, honestly believes that their country is likely being subjected to a bio warfare attack from abroad, that goes a long way to explain why they have responded to this pandemic in such a draconian manner.
How about excess death data in China after vaccination?
Pfizer at 94% IS NOT PROVEN. Sinopharm 79% is proven. Millions of doses of Sinopharm and no mal effects, not a single case. mRNA is NOT a vaccine.
It is quite surprising that a "doctor" is picking out The traditional vaccine as "working in a different way". Traditional vaccines have been employed over hundreds of years. Traditional vaccines WORK. What is working in a different way, in fact, are the new vaccines, the Adenovirus vaccine and mRNA vaccines. And mind you, these are relatively new vaccines, not yet fully tested, otherwise we wouldn't have blod clots and other side effects. Another misleading info by our Dr. John Campbell.
America has lost its manufacturing capability and wasn't capable of mass producing Traditional vaccines in the short span of time. The fastest and cheapest way was to come up with this mRNA. It is a race to come up with the first vaccine for massive profits.