Breaking Points
Krystal and Saagar examine Elon Musk’s plan to bring back video sharing app Vine and compete with TikTok for Gen Z users
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Yay
Gah, Krystals stupid smug face any time Saagar gives Elon credit 🤦🏽♂️
Tik tok was the best place to see quality messages from people
I’ve honestly never heard of “parascope” platform
I don't think that building a good algorithm is going to be a problem for the man who created one to take us to Mars…
In light of yesterday's story about DHS and the FBI working in coordination with large social media companies in censoring and suppressing content and accounts; you have to wonder how these backdoor systems are interfacing with TikTok. I imagine, not at all. Or at least at the same level, given its Chinese affiliations. In fact, you genuinely have to wonder; did TikTok succeed because DHS and the FBI weren't heavily involved in shaping the content of the platform? Was the audience drawn to TikTok because certain topics, individuals, and discussions were suppressed on American-based platforms? In other words; was TikTok more attractive because it wasn't so (American) government-manipulated, and ultimately—authentic? At least on some level.
I mean vine did it first so it wouldn’t be copying tik tok.
Or Elon buys Tiktok to shut it down lol
hell yeah!! bring back vine!! need tiktok gone. and then vine again. what ever happened to it and periscope??
You can literally see this guy get wet everytime he mentions Musk. Such a rider
I always wondered why Vine went away, it was basically TikTok
Hmm Elon already making money moves🤔
nostalgia
Vine was the best thing ever. I was watching the compilations this week and losing it still
A codebase that hasn't been updated in six years will be completely useless today, it will be faster and better to re-write it from scratch.
I used to think vines were idiotic until TikTok came along
Her daughter was on “Vine”?
😱
I thought Krystal was like 23 or something…
Why can't TikTok spin off as a US corporation subject to US laws, stock distributed to all current owners but also new stock issued and sold (1 new share per old share), to dilute and diversify ownership, 3 years of restrictions and govt oversight to make sure China doesn't retain undue influence, and after that it's just another US social media company.
There has to be a Video and file sharing component to Twitter.
You interrupted saggar to tell us about how much your daughter liked vine?
such a Banshee. your word is not the final word on everything!
cover the DHS censorship leaks
I always loved vine! I was always impressed by how creative people could be in 7 seconds
The communists are always the real innovators lol
strong move
Pay the girls to jiggle on Vine and a lot of men will follow
What make tiktok really explode, was the crossover, you dont have to have tiktok (app) to see tiktoks (short videos), you can download the content or link, and then share it to facebook, whatsapp, imessage, instagram, snapchat, desktop; without the necessity to download the app or create an account.
Saagar keeps iterating “because its american” like it matters or is better, ppl here dont even drive our own cars for the most part because it sucks, and like all aspect of our current culture, use the patriotism card about choices to sell crap. We just dont have the excellence anymore because we got fat, lazy, and way too comfortable… meanwhile you go out to some place like japan and they’ll treat you like a king anywhere without thinking about 20-50% tip in service sector, everything is working in public places whereas back home in the states, 3 out of 4 faucets in any public bathroom is broken, places and spaces looks dirty and disgusting like they’ve been abandoned for decades.
Vine proceeded tik tok
Sagaar just has to turn every segment into another anti China screed…
I've never understood why Twitter didn't do this themselves way before Elon. It was popular and the original short form video platform. Maybe a little bit early, but when Tik Tok started to absolutely explode and IG copied them just to make sure they don't get left in the dust several years ago, shouldn't that have been considered a good reason to bring Vine back?? It really makes you wonder why the whole C suite were compensated millions every year when literally the only noticeable change the floundering pre-Elon Twitter anytime in the last several years was canceling people and inhibiting free speech.
Why not just stop investing so much of your personal time on social media and do something with your life? Just saying.
DO IT FOR THE VINE!!!!
can I buy that outro so I can shut it down? how much would that cost?
TikTok is china
I'll start respecting Elon when he resurrects Friendster.
Who cares if someone is copying TikTok? Someone needs to do it to remove control from China. If it's done well, people would prefer having their data stored with America.
I’m curious to see how YouTube shorts works out next year once YouTube monetizes it. A lot of creators are gonna be drawn to the revenue stream, which will be far far better than tik tok.
That's great news!
It might be cool if you guys stopped referring to him by his first name, like he’s your buddy.
He isn’t your buddy.
Elon, if you want Vine to take off in popularity, there is only ONE guarantee way to do it:
Allow porn in Vine.
TikTok with tips (way to monetize)
It's better for Vine to compete with Tik Tok. It can easily beat Tik Tok with similar algorithm.
Ban TikTok and we need laws to reign in the censorship/person data collection these companies are doing!
Fuckin hate TikTok, I'll use vine over TikTok.
This is ballsyier than first meets the eye. Elon depends on China for a lot right?
So let's compete with their big Spyware app!
I think vine being brought back could work awesome to bump tik tok off its I'll deserved podium. Tik tok rips off their music, without any compensation to artists and bands and gives basically no cut to creators.
35 and excited 😂😂😂😂😊❤🎉🎉🎉
I don't think people realize how bad an idea it is to copy Tik Tok. It is in the nature of social media platforms to consolidate the entire market. If nobody you know or content creators you love change platform (which always causes them to lose followers in the short term and is therefor an unattractive proposition) nobody is going there to be part of a smaller community. Only YouTube really stands a chance with shorts, even though I despise that feature, because it already has the userbase for it.
But Elon is buddy buddy with China so I mean until he ends that relationship I'm not really too hype or caring of this news.