Evidence of “the science” process needed (from Livestream #138)

Clip taken from DarkHorse Podcast Livestream #138 (originally streamed live on Aug 13, 2022):


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In this 138th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), discuss the state of the world though an evolutionary lens. Find more from us on Bret’s website ( or Heather’s website (

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  1. I remain "organic". I worked for years in IT, with data management, etc. It was just logical: not enough data to predict the safety of these experiments. I had the Wuhan virus in 2020. My doc prescribed HCQ and one day later I had no symptoms (granted that I started the protocol really early). My wife had the Omicron, I decided to sleep next to her so at least I could get over a second infection… Well, doctor prescribed Ivermectin for both (I was still negative without symptoms, so I did a preventive protocol). I never tested positive (after three tests) and I had zero symptoms. Wife had mild symptoms for two days.
    So, I followed my reasoning, I listen to doctors with real success treating people with premature treatment in using repurposed drugs… It worked for me

  2. What “they” tried to do with Covid was feed us this info as if it was the 50s. You know…as if it was 3 tv channels and newspapers and radio. As if they forgot that the internet existed. Too many ways to get real information nowadays and that’s what happened so the only thing they could do was shut down dissent.

  3. If I’ve learned anything from this entire debacle it’s to trust no company or authority. Pharmaceutical companies have outright lied about their test results for decades. Tamiflu is garbage and cuts symptoms by .5 days. Serotonin has nothing to do with depression but millions were sold the drugs for depression. I trust none of these companies. Absolutely none.

  4. Covid has a purpose… It has directly shed an unfavorable light on both the scientific research community AND our medical system for all to see. After working at a prestigious University as an animal research technician I saw both of these sides from the inside and can tell you it's not 100% savory although there are still some good people trying to do the right thing, and young medical students don't have much of a chance to think for themselves they are very narrowly focused from the beginning. People training to be doctors that have zero worldly experience with anything I saw how naive they were and I also saw how principal investigators in the research were padding their costs (think new computers, tablets, whatever expensive equipment not really needed) so their funding would not be lessened in the future by NIH, as well as the comstant jockeying for the next big discovery to bring in the bank (not to mention some had blatant disregard for the animals welfare). After all that my mom was in the hospital dying of cancer, I saw again how system was doing her no benefits .., and believe me those doctors were not very fond of me and all my educated questions.

  5. Yes. Sadly ,here in Ireland the population STILL listens to the Mainstream Media..STILL believes the Criminals in Government have their best interests at heart and worst of all will do whatever their ‘health’ minister tells them to do….here it is hugely celebrated that the influence of the church is be replaced by the influence of Big Tech,Big Pharma,Big Banks. resulting in a soulless Globalism whilst the population sleepwalks on towards Totalitarianism.

  6. I hate the term 'elite' and 'celebrities'. Most are 🤡s that have money and are in the eye of the public (not ours I add). Because we don't or comply with these 🤡s our two lives are fantastic. They have been for years.

  7. " If you have to be persuaded, lied to, incentivized, coerced, bullied, socially shamed, guilt-tripped, threatened, punished and criminalized… If all of this is considered necessary to gain your compliance – You can be absolutely certain that what is being promoted is not in your best interest "
    – Ian Watson Words of wisdom from Mr. Watson

  8. Alternative equivalent forces are required to argue and improve upon, this age, The modern medical industry is much powerful and not many alternatives are there with that power and control over the masses. Scores of people are still unvaccinated and living normally, this itself shows their fear narrative is false. So many things looks wrong, people like you and me continue talking and expose with reason.

  9. As a person who likes the history of discoveries and the thinking process behind them.
    I could smell the greed of the corrupt opportunists, as history rhymes it self similar things already happened in the past.

  10. I don't believe Brett is an evolutionary biologist or he would be discussing all injections. Instead of humans adapting to the real environment, over time, the very environment that will be our future, humans are now adapted to the injection needle. Some forever separated from natural biological evolution. This is the reason he is also to be considered an elite, who are spurred on with these miracle concoctions because they can't go back. The real problem is all the others are to be experimented on to find out what might work.

  11. They had to deny use of any other drugs to combat covid-19 because the vaccination was issued under the emergencies Acts which stipulates that can only be enacted when there is no other alternative

  12. Thank you guys for the discussions. This is the most important issue in the world today. The never ending struggle between man and government!! They really want us to forget this and move along. Keep on truckin and fighting the good fight !

  13. Lefties aren’t good at independent thought because objective truth just isn’t a value for them. I wish this was hyperbole, but the more I’ve recognized it to be true.

    Actual liberals still can recognize and value objective truth, but they are in the minority and actively being purged by the totalitarian left.

    Ask yourself, how else could any of this shameless behavior occur if this wasn’t true.

  14. The future:
    There is a God in heaven who did give man prophesy which can be reviewed by history and proven to be true.
    Out of all prophesies inside the Bible, Daniel is the main one. No one can debunk Daniel, and Daniel predicted over 2300 years of history that can be proven.
    Example: Rise and fall of Babylon and Medo/Persia and Greece and Rome, even the 4 generals of Greece and 10 generals of Rome and the 1260 years of Papal rulership after Rome and when you asd Revelations, you then see America and Atheism and many others.

    We can trust in God to tell us the future, and God had Prophets write it down for future generations. 💝💝💝

  15. The fix to all of this is to return to true Constitutional origins. We have gotten out of control from our founding documents. If we return to where laws are created (Congress), where judges have very narrow basis for rulings and an executives that have narrow capabilities. Instead, what do we have? Congress shirks their overall responsibility and often times judges have make rulings outside their scope. The president has been empowered to do more than his/her original charter and we have a stupid mix of agencies creating “law”. Again, the fix is to return to a Constitutional Republic.

  16. If we dont think for ourselves then others aka ‘the elites’ will do our thinking for us and they are not our friends. God gave us common sense which sadly does not appear to be common anymore.

  17. Engineers are their worst fear. You can't apply bogus science by consensus and make it work. Your bridges will all fall down. I just saw that Moderna is suing Pfizer over a process in the making of the poisoned needles. Not over their mutual failure though. The real plot twist will be when the process in question is flawed and causes adverse effects.

  18. Latest data from U.K. I heard was that in 70% of deaths, obesity was a factor and the majority of the rest had multiple comorbidities. Like I have thought since the beginning, young and healthy = little to no risk of death….but pop multiple shots into the entire population ( the rich got richer ), is my only takeaway.

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