From Evergreen State College to Black Lives Matter: A live chat with Benjamin Boyce

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Written by Karlyn Borysenko

The focus of my life since 2012 was to bring sanity back to the work environment, because I believe we spend so much time at work that we shouldn’t be miserable. I have an MBA and a PhD in psychology, specializing in industrial/organizational psychology. I have my own practice - Zen Workplace - where I integrate organizational psychology and positive psychology with mindfulness techniques to help make work better. I’m also the Chief Science Officer of RallyBright, where I work to build high-performing, resilient teams.But that’s not how most people know me. Most people know me as a (now former) Democrat of 20 years who went to a Trump rally. The article I wrote about my experience went viral and garnered 3 million views in the first week. I was featured by Fox News, Glenn Beck, Dennis Prager, and on dozens of radio shows, podcasts, and YouTube videos.


  1. When public education was started in the United States I truly believe that there was a consensus that the free market of ideas would never fail us. These builders of our educational systems did not foresee the evil of mankind, that unethical egotists would destroy the free market by only teaching their beloved ideologies and demonize anyone whose ideas they disliked.

  2. I disagree with your statement that the United States was built on racism and was a racist country from the start. The economies of the Southern States were built on slavery. The racist leaders in the South used indoctrination of their children to ensure that slavery persisted and enriched them into the future. The unscientific fallacies that were taught and ingrained in the many generations of Southerners has taken a millennia to undo, and to this day the ripples are still seen, heard, and felt.
    The Northern States were not built on slavery. Even from the forming of the colonies slavery was a hotly argued topic. The majority of colonists viewed slavery as immoral. That is why the North fought for eliminating slavery in the United States. If our country was founded on slavery and racism then the Civil War would never have happened.

  3. Regarding your discussion later in the video regarding team safety in the workplace. Several years ago I met someone who was a senior project manager at a major bank. An employee was transferred onto his team without his involvement. The employee was not competent in their job and had numerous attendance and performance issues. The new manager couldn't do anything about their attendance or job performance because their last manager tried to address their lack of work and was promptly accused of racism. The company chose to transfer the poorly performing employee and destroy the manager who was just trying to do their job. The new manager had their hands tied and the woman of color could literary collect a paycheck and not even show up for work, and if anyone tried to say anything… racism.

  4. It's not a theology or an ideology, it's actually a "Theideology" ?
    A bit of both, and like raspberry ripple ice-cream there is the base ideology with swirls of theology mixed through it, allowing the adherents to dip into either side when needed for pushing their worldview on the world, but which are seperate within the Theideology at the same time.
    It comes across as both "church and state" when the countries it is being practiced in have historically made a conscious effort to seperate the two to avoid too much power being concentrated in any one person, inevitably leading to their utter corruption and blatant misuse of that power as history has shown ALWAYS happens.
    The adherents are attracted to it due to the massive power to wield at their whims, legally, to satisfy their every demand at the cost of all others needs/wants (i.e. "Cancel Culture", state-backed religiosity with simultaneous oppression of other religions, false accusations, etc.)

  5. Call these people schoolmarms. Sjw schoolmarms of society hates freedom..make fun of all thes people. People hate being mocked and made fun of. Antifa made by China. Used to by China to tear down from within for China to take over SJW made by China. Celebrities they are coming after you.

  6. I’m just now catching up on this interview SORRY ? I was excited for this one as I live in Washington State & honestly since ALL THIS BLEW UP & all the chaos with Chaz/Chop in Seattle I kept telling people – HELLO DID Y’ALL FORGET ABOUT EVERGREEN!! And people are like Evergreen whaat??
    Yeah this whole thing was a total crap show & a TOTAL PRECURSOR FOR WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW! Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying have also been warning about this.
    Anyways I’m SO GLAD you did this & are despite what people say Evergreen is absolutely important to what is happening today & PEOPLE NEED TO ABSOLUTELY WATCH THE FOOTAGE OF BENJAMIN BOYCE!
    Thank you both, i have been watching Benjamin’s channel for a long time & of course I ABSOLUTELY LOVE DR. KARLYN! Keep kicking ass & takin names!

  7. Benjamin said he doesn't know what to call it when universities lure in students with the promise of a post-graduate professionally-viable skillset, but fail to deliver. Well, that's fraud. Most universities are committing fraud.
    And I love that Karlyn brought up Clayton Christensen, RIP. He is one of my intellectual heroes, and he just so happened to write a couple of books on education, specifically promoting a model of education around mastery/competency/proficiency within a decentralized/blended credentialing process that would absolutely disrupt and decimate the current bloated higher education system.
    Great stuff!

  8. Was Benjamin talking about The Confucius Institute when he mentioned the China stuff? If so, there has been a lot controversy about them in Australia. They are an extremely suspect CCP organisation from what Ive heard in our media.

  9. Most large orgnasations follow silly trends. It's better to be a freelancer with eff-you money than rely on an organisation for your livelihood. Or be a janitor or something physical/infrastructure-related.

  10. I would disagree about Ben's synopsis about gnosticism. I'd love to have an intelligent discussion with him about it. As pertains to his application in the context of feminism, I completely agree.

  11. What Ben described as narcissistic sociopath is actually just pure solipsism. Their entire reality is defined by their individual mind.

  12. Solipsism has always been the counter to science. Only in modern day has it been considered a mental disorder. See – Democritus- Father of the atom -the early dispute between science and solipsism. Matter vs Individual and/or the Hive Mind reality.