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How The U.S. Learned To Love Neo-N@zis In Ukraine

It used to be received wisdom in Western media that Ukraine’s Azov Battalion wasn’t merely a “nationalist” or “right-wing” group, but rather a full-blown neo-Nazi outfit. But then the Ukraine War happened, and suddenly Azov was “celebrated” (according to the New York Times) or merely “accused” of committing human rights abuses. So how did this happen? How did a group of neo-Nazis become the West’s primary bulwark against Russian imperialism?

Guest host Aaron Maté (https://mate.substack.com) and his panel of Ukrainian-born journalist Lev Golinkin and America’s Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the curious interaction of the Azov Battalion, Ukraine’s World War II hero/Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera, ,Volodymyr Zelensky and the Ukrainian populace.

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  1. Haven't enjoyed info so much since AOC claimed she had a juicy booty…..her words not mine.

    Pelosi is a criminal….never the duopoly.
    Waters is a hero.

    Great job Gentlemen !!!!!!

  2. Y'know. I appreciate the work these guys here in this discussion, are doing but it really does bug me to hear nazis referred to as "Far Right"
    it's like leftists refuse to acknowledge their capacity and actual harm.

    Fascism isn't a "far right position – Mussolini was squarely of the Left even after abandoning a Marxist position
    Nazism is not "Far right" as it stands for a national socialism party, socialism coming from Marx, a Leftist
    Hell, there's even some historical books suggesting Nazi Germany took their political cues and tactics from America's Democrat party and in the early days mantains strong ties…

    This doesn't mean we can't talk about the failures of the Right… but can we ackowledge the problems of the Left and call an extreme Leftist and extreme lseftist?

    lmao

    "Far Right?" More like "Far removed from reality"

  3. Lev says the Russia invasion and is a war crime and says you can separate the support of Azov from the support of Ukraine. But it's also true that if not for the Azov and everything they did to the citizens of the Donbass, Russia wouldn't have invaded.

  4. Real heroes indeed. Over 50 people were burnt alive in Odessa on May 2nd 2015 and to this day the people responsible for this tragedy haven't been punished in any way, and there hasn't been any real investigation. Separatists or not, those people didn't deserve to die, especially in such a horrific way. And I find it deplorable that many people in Ukraine don't look at this incident as something even illegal. Not to mention the atrocities these groups have been doing in the Donetsk region. Thousands of people disappeared. And I have the impression they are not even so brave in the battlefield because when they were 'evacuated' from Azovstal, the Russians went inside and I saw videos of whole rooms filled with bottled water and food, there were even really modernly furnished rooms with big screen TVs, a big dining room with a bar. So they had food and water, and weapons too. The Azov commander there was saying then "No Mariupol, no Ukraine". Lots of videos of local civilians claiming they bombed their homes before the Russians even approached the city. And what impressed me was that there is a block of flats absolutely intact among all the destruction. It turned out it was for Ukrainian military officers…

  5. Putin belongs in the Hague? Putin/Russia forced to eat the dollar backed by nothing but debt for decades, constant lies and broken treaties, agreements and international laws, and Lev thinks the responsibility is on Russia/Putin?
    Oh, I get it, Lev is a closet Dim blinded by foggy partisan 'feelings'…aaahh, the 'feelings' over reason gig, thank you dims, blm, crt, there are no genders but a hundred and forty two of 'em, or is that 'sexes with pronouns? Nice slide job Lev…

  6. Is there an indirect connection between Trump Zelensky phone call and supposed halting of arms shipment,which Trump eventually did,and Azov Battalion probably being recieptpients,or was just our own deep state covering up their own corruption in Ukraine,that lead to Trumps 1st impeachment,or combination?I would like to hear Mate explore that angle,and also if the Vindman twins have ties to this group,,suspicious immigration record.Azov was still on State Dept list of terrorist group at time,and State Dept.were major part of impeachment drive too.

  7. social media indeed did allow death threats towards russians, infact, its totally fine on social media platforms, to call for genocide against russians. yes. this is the timeline we live in. we should be rounding up ukrainians and inspecting every single one of their pasts, while they stand over a pit of spikes. and yet, big bully russia, standing up for the thousands killed, among them tons of children, needs to be put in its place.

  8. I don't think there's any "love" for these less than one thousand nazis. Truth is, even nazis have the right to defend their country against Russia's invasion. This conflict is a real shame. Before it, I thought Aaron & co were actually ideologically consistent anti-war activists. Turns out, they just sought for any excuse to hate the US all along and now carry water for a brutal dictator who shamelessly murders the entire families of his political opponents and has stolen the wealth of the Russian people for himself and his oligarch buddies. Thanks for opening my eyes, I guess.

  9. I find the fact Israel provided weapons to the azov the most appalling yet most ironic event in the history of human kind.
    We don't deserve our state… I say that with full confidence. we didn't learn SHIT. and when history shall repeat it self I for once will not cry about it nor blame anyone.
    We provide weapons to the same people who used to kill us, this is unforgivable and irredeemable. The whole excuse of our stat's existence has been NULLIFIED.

    עצם העובדה שמדינת ישראל סיפקה נשק לאותם נאצים שרצחו אותנו במלחמת העולם השנייה בלתי נסלח, לא למדנו שום דבר מההיסטוריה ועצם סיבת קיום המדינה שלנו מבוטלת לאלתר.
    הבושה שכל יהודי צריך להרגיש על הטעות הנוראית הזאת היא עצומה.
    כדאי מאוד שנתחיל לפחד על העתיד שמחכה לנו כעם, כי אם אנחנו מוכנים לשכוח לנאצים את מעשיהם, תהיו בטוחים שכשלא תיהיה הגנה מהבוס האמריקאי, כולם יבאו אלינו לסיבוב שני.

  10. WHAT AMERICA SAID IT WAS DOING IN 2018 AT A TIME THEY WERE TAKING HEAT FOR USING NAZIS IN UKRAIN AND WHAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY DOING WERE ONCE AGAIN 2 VERY DIFFERENT THINGS IT WAS A SENTENCE PUT IN A NEWSPAPER OR WHATEVER TO GET RID OF THOSE ON THEIR BACK FOR BEING WRONGENS USING WRONGENS BUT AMERICA HAS BEEN IN UKRAIN SINCE 2014 IT WAS THERE CIA COUP AND THEY HAVE ARMED TRAINED AND PAID NAZIS EVER SINCE NO BREAKS OR GAPS IN THEIR DIRTY WRONGEN WAYS WHATSOEVER AS THERE HASNT BEEN IN SYRIA USING ISIS TALIBAN AND ALQIEDA A4E YOU TRYING TO SUGGEST THAT AMERICA AFTER BEING IN BED WITH ISIS TALIBAN AND ALQIEDA SINCE THE 70s THEY AT SOME POINT AFTER DOING A COUP IN UKRAIN AND USING NAZIS FOR 4 YEARS THEY TRULY STOPPED FOR A WHILE BECAUSE THEY WOKE ONE MORNING IN A COLD SWET AND SAID WE GOTTA STOP USING NAZIS IN UKRAIN ITS A NO NO PLEASE COME BACK TO THE REAL WORLD MARSHALL ISLANDS JAPAN TWICE ON A HEAVILY POPULATED CIVILIAN AREAS AT RUSH HOUR 2 MONTHS AFTER THEY HAD ENTERED THE NEGOTIATING TABLE TO SURRENDER AFGHANISTAN FOR 30 YEARS BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11TH THEN SPENT 20 YEARS STEALING 194 MBPD DOWN TO 6 MBPD UNTIL THE COST OF BEING THERE WAS MORE THAN WHAT THE OIL THEY WERE STEALING WAS WORTH THEN THEY LEFT THOSE FORCED TO WORK WITH THE WEST NATO SCUMBAGS CLINGING ONTO THE WHEELS OF THE PLANES THAT THEY LEFT ON ITS IN THE GUINESS BOOK OF RECORDS AS LONGEST BOMBING CAMPAIGN IN HISTORY SOMALIA FOR 40 YEARS STRAIGHT SYRIA LISTEN TO COLONEL RICHARD BLACK ON YOUTUBE ON SYRIA STILL STEALING 66 THOUSAND BARRELS EVERY TIME THE SUN GOES DOWN FROM SYRIA YEMEN LIBYA SUDAN SERBIA KOSOVO IRAQ A MILLION PEOPLE MURDERED STEALING EVERY DROP OF THEIR OIL SRI LANKA YUGOSLAVIA PAKISTAN HIATI AND MANY MANY MORE THEN THE ILEGAL SANCTIONS PLACED ON EVERY COUNTRY STARVING TO DEATH 50 THOUSAND KIDS IN VENEZUELA THEN AFRICA IRAN AND MANY MANY MORE AMERICA ARE AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN IN EVERY CONFLICT BEEN THE WORST TERRORISTS OF ALL INVADING COUNTRY AFTER COUNTRY BOMBING SCORCHED EARTH TACTICS MURDERING 230 THOUSAND CIVILIANS MINIMUM IN EACH UPTO A MILLION IN IRAQ AND WHO KNOWS HOW MANY IN SOMALIA OVER THE 40 YEARS AND AFGHANISTAN OVER THE FIFTY YEARS NOT 20 LIKE EVERYONE TRIES TO SAY 50 AND YOU THINK THAT BECAUSE THEY WROTE SOMETHING SOMEWHERE OR SAID SOMETHING THAT THATS GOSPEL THEIR WORD MEANS LESS THAN NOTHING LIKE THE MINSK AGREEMENT 14 TIMES NOW BROKEN WHAT THE WORLDS WORST TERRORISTS SAY AND DO IS 2 VERY DIFFERENT THINGS I DONT KNOW WHY SO MANY PEOPLE THINK IT DOES OR THAT THEIR OWN WORDS ON THEIR OWN PLATFORMS WILL DO ANYTHING CHANGE ANYTHING WHATSOEVER FOR THE BETTER IF ANYONE BECOMES MORE THAN JUST BACKGROUND NOISE THAT CAN NOT BE ASSASINATED OR IMPRISONED LIKE IN UKRAIN OR JULIAN ASSANGE THEY WILL BE FOBBED OFF WITH A SENTENCE WRITTEN OR SAID SOMEWHERE COME ON GUYS SURELY YOUR BETTER THAN THIS WE MAY HAVE WELL FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT THE SECOND IT WAS WRITTEN NOTHING WEST HAS WRITTEN IS WORTHY OF THE PAPER ITS WRITTEN ON

  11. Why didn't you ask this guy some compelling questions? Like, what about existential threats to Russia? Why didn't Ukraine negotiate an agreement? He spoke about the Azof battalion crimes, then thinks everyone needs to back Ukraine. This guy can't accept logic.

  12. 20:02 More like a group from Alabama who notoriously had tortured mutilated and lynched countless tens of thousands of blacks, Jews and Catholics children and women en mass. Ukraine right now and it's military, both former and militias are literally run by a KKK on steroids, it's hardly just Azov or the dozens of other Ultras.. 26:50 so no you cannot just cut that piece out when it's holding a knife to the neck of the majority, and honestly Russia was backed into a corner thanks to Washington's DC's refusal to do their part and get their proxy to behave itself.

  13. Thank's Aaron and Kuirt, i'ts impor4tant for everyone to have an insight of hpw the regu;ar Ukrainian's feel as well as local knowledge of the actors involved and what the locals think and wan't to happen. Throughout this enire Military Operation we have seen very little interveiws from Ukrainian people.

  14. What f you talking about, what Russia is it a war crime this is nonsense, why don’t you talk about the civilians killed by Ukraine since 2014. the real war criminals are the Ukraines with their western supporters.
    Oh boy are being very stupid with your comments „what Russia is doing war criminal“ what about your Ukraine war criminals? not even a word about crime of Ukraine

  15. Racism doesn't exist in natural selection or reality, it's made up.
    All life diversifies thru tribalism,99.9% we build the tree of life thru TRIBALISM !
    Racism is the cult of hate and it's a fraud.

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