Journalists haven’t noticed that lab leak, repurposed drugs, and vaccines are the same story (#143)

Breaking Points on Lab Leak

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  1. It doesn't help that whomever is actually running things is constantly contradicting everything said by the president and vice president. We are living in a clown world where we are forced to blindly accept everything or risk everything. Like many I've elected to risk everything and not believe everything in told.

  2. Saw a video today that cast the management, manufacture, and distribution of the mrna jab as a DOD operation. The PHARMA companies and their contractors are taking the technology, ingredients, and the manufacturing process from DARPA.

  3. Glenn Beck has a great documentary about the origins of Covid 19 and…the Moderna (NIH Fauci) vaccine. It's incredible and the fact that the powers that be are not investigating certain GUILTY persons is truly shameful. Please watch it!

  4. If you can be a vaccine factory (from the jab), could you not also be a variant factory? These variants come from somewhere. Something is acting as a petri dish. This is a fact that cannot be denied.

    Where do the variants really comes from? People really need to understand this ground truth.

  5. Let's assume It's true that sadly 6 million people died with covid as at least a complicating factor in their death. Keep in mind that the world population is 8000 million.

  6. I think the answer lies in the phycology of totalitarianism. By Mathias Desmet. There is no logical explanation here. This adoption of this rollout and the fact that the masses have gone along with it begs much bigger questions ! Let’s see the bigger picture

  7. Thereought to be new citizens watch dog council to monitor Pharma,govt science,paid by citizen ,Such beginnings exist such as FLCCC, they should be expanded by other scientists,citizens to monitor n challenge corrupt govt n pharma anti science institutions. If start outs such as FLCCC,or BIRD,becomes international so much better. Donations from all businesses,institutions,citizens,eco groups just media,movie stars,car co etc etc would make it a reality.Its GLOBAL CITIZENS FOR TRUE SCIENCE.

  8. Thanks for this podcast. I'd like you to comment if you could on the lawsuit that the GREAT Barrington agreement is prosecuting against the US government– with people named ( ie biden fauci etc)although it's actually the government that's the subject of this lawsuit. THEY have evidence that the government colluded with high-tech to censor out any voice except the government's voice and this is contrary to the US Constitution and that is the basis upon which this lawsuit is being prosecuted.
    Apparently there are lawsuits occurring in other countries such as Canada– done by two Britishers who live there– and also in Spain that were successful.
    I would find it very interesting if somebody could collect all of these lawsuits and present them to us so we can get an idea as a global Community how people are trying to fight back and right this wrong which is on going because you probably are aware that the California governor Newsom just passed a law that basically says that he will decide WHAT doctors can say and do and if they violate his decisions, they will lose their profession in essence.
    Frankly Heather and Bret,I do not understand why the Democrats have turned into demigods and are following the handbook of fascist Germany. JUST as I believe the trumpians are not Republicans, I truly believe these people are not Democrats in any way, shape or form. I was in San Francisco when newsom ran for mayor and everyone said he had as his goal a higher positionthen simply mayor.I voted for the Hispanic attorney who was also an artist and he was very intelligent as well and a straight up American but he lost to newsom who was the businessman who turned into an alcoholic and then later was left by his wife who is now the mistress of Joe Jr. AND so the World Turns.
    Everything is truly upside down and inside out but I do think if we can make a compilation of the ongoing lawsuits we could get an idea of the lay of the land and we could know how to sue Newsome and other such people that are taking robbing scientists of their right to discuss & make decisions and practice their profession

  9. In January/February 2020, before anyone outside of science nerds even heard about covid, I remember reading reports that the genome contained 4 HIV sequences inserted in to it. It was openly discussed because no politicians or media were were paying attention to it yet… they were totally hyperfocused on trying to impeach Trump with their falsified Steele dossier. Back then, in those good ol days, the chats were open and free and unemotional. Did those reports ever get verified or refuted? I'm pretty sure it was the Australians who did the first sequencing of what later was known as SARS 2/Covid.

  10. Occam's Razor.

    What on earth would possess the governments to behave so irrationally?
    THEY KNEW, but like everything else coming from the dollar store; It wasn't as bad as they thought.

    Amazing how indiscreet the elephant in the room was peddled and swallowed.

    maybe do a study on the effects of fluoride on the populace
    and how these two things are intertwined.

  11. All Orwellian regimes use ad hominems like "You're a murderer" for their 24 News Cycle of Hate. If schools weren't ideologically captured, they would each children from elementary school to recognize logical fallacies like ad hominems, strawmen, red herrings, arguments from authority, guilt by association, etc. Unfortunately, the late-stage crapitalist neoliberal corporate interests who run the academic system need Proles to be susceptible to every single one of those fallacies.

  12. They are using the same control methods in the climate change arena.

    What really started the whole COVID hysteria? The "models" predicting huge death figures. Models that were proved to be incorrect.

    The climate experts predicted events 40yrs ago that have not eventuated yet no one calls them out.
    Ice free Artic by 2014, Maldives inundated by early 2000s to name two.

  13. I don’t want an apology & wouldn’t accept one from those in power in the govt, in medicine, or in journalism. They profess to be knowledgeable & they should have known if they did not know. Sorry isn’t nearly enough.

  14. I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth. Banks are going bust. Shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be.

    We know things are bad – worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is: 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my Netflix and my UberEats and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.'

    Well, I'm not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get MAD! I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot – I don't want you to write to your congressman, because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you've got to get mad. You've got to say: 'I'm a human being, god-dammit! My life has value!'

    So …. I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell: 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take this anymore!'

    I want you to get up right now. Sit up. Go to your windows. Open them and stick your head out and yell – 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not gonna take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!…You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first, get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take this anymore!'

    -Network, 1976

  15. I've know it was most likely a lab leak and liability issue almost from day one just from observing the narrative. Why haven't the 20% population critical thinkers? I lost my biomedical engineering job for not releasing my jab status. Why won't people start doing the right thing and stop complying until they tell the truth and come clean? They want everyone other then themselves to loose their lively hood. No morals or ethics anymore with the small or no families. Woke school teachers teaching them instead of the parents. Sad state we're in.

  16. What FUNCTIONS were the scientists hoping to optimize? Infectiousness is the oft-cited goal but we should look at what the virus actually DID then reverse engineer it to find out. Was it modified to selectively affect older, fatter, sicker people worse than younger, healthier, thinner people? The WEF & Gates would like to reduce the population of the planet substantially. Who do you THINK they would most like to eliminate?

  17. The script that seems to go around is very creepy and its incredibly frustrating how so many are so oblivious. At work, having to listen to the tv repeated to me as if its a unique opinion is aging me.

  18. Not sure how deeply you’ve looked into virology itself but there are many cracks coming to the surface. Check out dr Thomas cowen, dr Andrew Kaufman, dr Sam and mark Bailey, etc etc. I know it’s a wild claim — so people throw it away… and refuse to touch it with a ten foot pole… but if you actually follow the scientific papers and studies on the ‘virus’ try for yourself to see if it exists. Crazy as it sounds, I doubt you’ll be able to find any of them.

  19. This was no blunder. It was done on purpose. Example: Every lab, all around the world cycled these PCR tests at an exact threshold making them assured to give consistent false positives. Disregarding the literature for the machines which told the labs specifically not to do just that. Every lab made the exact same mistake? Every lab disregarded the literature of operation? How did that happen?
    And let’s not even get started on the fact that the inventor of PCR, for which he did win the Nobel Prize, Kary Mullis, unequivocally stated the test was useless for this Covid 19. His suspicious death after having said such was an apparent boon to the powers that be.
    Good people, principled people have a hard time fathoming evil on this scale, but fathom it you must do. It is the only way to stop this.

  20. What say you about Germ Theory vs Terrain theory? And also what about the idea that viruses don't even exist and that scientists were incorrectly identifying exosomes and extracellular vesicles as viruses? I find this idea intriguing because of the dogma of scientism pervading our culture juxtaposed against the the amount of times the scientists got it wrong throughout history. The thing that got me going down this train of thought was the claims that covid has never been properly purified or isolated in a lab and has also never met Koch's postulates and demonstrated transmissibility therefor proving the existence of a pathogen. As far as I was able to ascertain from my research, the CDC claims it got the genetic sequence of covid from the Chinese and plugged it into an algorithm by which the PCR tests were calibrated to. However, is there any actual physical isolated samples of covid thus proving it's physical existence? Not as far as I can tell. It seems some researchers have claimed to have done the work of purifying and isolating a sample of covid but here is where it gets strange and I need some help from you guys… When you read about the actual process used to purify and isolate a virus the directions seem very dubious and suspect to me. And maybe there is another process I don't know of so please let me know. But the process involves some questionable processes which calls into question the results yielded by this system. I don't have it here in front of me so I will paraphrase… The process for physically purifying and isolating a virus, going back to the 50's, goes something like this. You take monkey kidney cancer cells and smother them in poison and chemicals and viola there is your virus…. but hang on a minute. Other people who followed this process are saying, nah bro, you just poisoned the cells so the cells sprouted appendages and leaked out a bunch exosomes and broken RNA segments and when photographed these poisoned cells look just like the drawings of a Covid virion particles or other virions and the broken bits of RNA are then analyzed by a computer and digitally strung together in a sequence that is called a virus when in actuality it is a digital phantom false virus with no tangible physical existence. Is this what is happening? Is this part of the process actually used to identify viruses? And if so, are all viruses digital forgeries? Is the whole entire paradigm of infectious viruses nothing more then a mind trope used by the elites to control the populace with fear and inoculations??? I'm not sure. I don't know enough about virology to figure this out for certain but it is definitely a fascinating pursuit of inquiry for curious minds hungry for the truth. If anyone has any ideas on this or anything to add comment below!

  21. In 2022 91% of UK deaths from COVID 19 are occurring in the fully vaccinated.

    75% of the UK population are fully vaccinated.

    This clearly calls for a break down by age group of the pros and cons of each age group.

    As taken as a whole this data would contradict the use of the vaccine, but this one size fits all analysis is an improper manner of risk assessment for a drug, which has only been normalised during the pandemic, and now contradicts itself, forcing the issue …

    I think this statement is an air tight very simplified argument for vaccine fascists, please point out any flaw in this logic.

  22. I am in the opinion, that the reason for the sudden comeback of the COVID hysteria, resulting in COVID-passport lockdowns in Europe, was the realization of the scheming people behind the curtain, that now they had the chance to implement the legal and practical platform for a social credit system.
    People didn't even notice that the EU governments now exercise the power to deny you basic freedoms, such as a haircut.

  23. The way the press secretary spun the latest evidence of Biden's incapacity is a metaphor for all this. A blatant lie to save face politically. It's worse than just political, it's like a campaign. Never admit to anything not caught on camera and bring out a Conga line of 'experts' to show you are right / have always been right. A political campaign directed against the public.

  24. In 2001 the American people were entitled to know how more than 3,000 people were murdered in the worse terrorist attack in our nations history. Did anyone ever get to the bottom of what happened. No. Do the American people still care? No. This is history repeating itself.

  25. Had WIV come up with a vaccine before C19 escaped, the PLA would've had one more weapon to add to their arsenal. Immunsie your population and you're good to go. I wonder how many other virus / vaccine tandems have succesfully been weaponised. Gain of function is only half of the weapon, you need vaccine capability too.

  26. Thank you Heather and Bret! Yes. 'Their' numbers were never current nor correct following the first month of tracking. The CDC charts used terms like 'probable' which is not 'actual'… its 'probable' as well as adding 'natural' causes into the total death counts of Cv19. Cv19 is known to be Frankensteined from its beginning in the two CN and one US-SC labs as far back as 2016. Keep up the great work yall!

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