Stoicism: Get Better at Life with Massimo Pigliucci

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Massimo Pigliucci is Professor of Philosophy at the City College of New York. He has a doctorate in genetics from the University of Ferrara, Italy, a PhD in biology from the University of Connecticut, and a PhD in philosophy of science from the University of Tennessee. He is a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry.

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00:00 Intro
04:46 What is Stoicism?
11:15 How to Become Wise
24:24 The Need for Philosophy to be Taught More
29:02 Why is There a Lack of Stoic Values in the World Today?
33:45 Does Human Tribal Instinct Outweigh Virtue?
40:41 The Difference Between Sympathy & Empathy
51:19 How to Learn From Past Civilisations’ Mistakes
1:04:37 What’s the One Thing We’re Not Talking About?

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    00:00 Intro

    04:46 What is Stoicism?

    11:15 How to Become Wise

    24:24 The Need for Philosophy to be Taught More

    29:02 Why is There a Lack of Stoic Values in the World Today?

    33:45 Does Human Tribal Instinct Outweigh Virtue?

    40:41 The Difference Between Sympathy & Empathy

    51:19 How to Learn From Past Civilisations’ Mistakes

    1:04:37 What's the One Thing We’re Not Talking About?

  2. I can certainly get behind this fellows insights to societal problems. As far as Twitter goes, that was a fucking cesspool long before Musk risked BILLIONS. And now we’ve proof Dr. Jay and others were “censored”…and he has the gaul to say Musk has made a mess of it?!…stick to what you know kind sir

  3. As much as I am attracted by Stoicism, Massimos explanations are incoherent. Human characteristics he likes (cooperation) he calls natural, but when Facebook's angry button turns out to be 8 times more powerful that the like button, that is somehow unnatural. He blames the things he doesn't like to "stuctural" problems as if these structures did not naturally evolve from underlying natural human characteristics. Regarding the desire for better leaders he doesnt seem to understand that we have evolved to ask too much from our leaders (whether devine or human). Politics (the realm of the compulsory) has expanded at the expense of the realm of the voluntary. This alone explains the increase in social division and decrease in cooperation.

  4. How utterly full if European sh#t he is about the left having to pay a price for saying outrageous and incendiary things. The left are off the deep end and get covered for by the press over and over and over. To then say it's just Trump who says outrageous things to get ahead (which is not so cynical with him–as it is with the left–because he actually means what he says) is such a run-of-the-mill, pedestrian, click-to-download opinion that it throws everything else he says into question.

  5. The Left is not "out" if they are outrageous. They get protected and rarely pay a price at all. His chortling, smug giggling about Trump is off-the-shelf, thoughtless, and unphilosophical. That's how you fit in as a European, a New Yorker, and an academic and is not intellectual or thoughtful at all.

  6. Why do we see an increasing level of victimhood in society? Victims are desperate to be acknowledged & to be told that they can be fixed & compensated. This makes them easily manipulated. The "system" loves victims, so victimhood has been monetised.

  7. I'm sure he has cute views on stoicism, but in the end massimo is an integral part of a liberal elite that hates anyone acting in a way or having views that essentially challenge their way of acting or their way of thinking… .

  8. Who voted in the politicians? No-one. They have been selected by the plutocrats and oligarchs and they pass only laws and policies that are supported by the plutocrats and oligarchs. This has been proven time and again by political scientists who study our societies.

  9. There is a "golden thread" running through humanity the "edda". It runs exactly central to your consciousness, which side of the line you choose to reside is choice. There is Millennia of guidance to help you remain, at the least central to the thread.

  10. The problem with cosmopolitanism is that there are tribes/cultures which should not be included in ours. Democracy and the protection of human rights are great achievements of the west and these things should be protected against cultures which have no respect for them.

  11. Pigliucci is a great example of how even stoics need a lot more introspection and reflection. His comment that Republicans get away with everything while Democrats are lambasted for every little thing is delusional at best!

  12. 1:03:38

    'Elon making a mess of twitter, people are actually leaving the platform'

    its this that gets me. this guy is amazing but Free Speech and what elon is doing is amazing. Trump is also not the enemy of the people. he may not be helpful but he isn't the bigger threat here

  13. I think the influence of money in politics is generally overstated but I'm open to a good argument. I think the Microsoft example is terrible. Microsoft was indeed ordered broken up by the Federal Courts and indeed didn't get broken up but pretty much everything else stated is incorrect.

    1. If Microsoft "bought" a Senator to save them with legislation, a majority of other Senators, a majority of the House of Representatives, and the President have to all agree. If that were true, it would be hard for me to classify that outcome as not democratic given those groups are all more accountable to the people than Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson who made the original ruling.

    2. It's not true. I don't even think the Federal Legislative process is even capable of directly countering an antitrust ruling like that. What happened was the ruling was overturned on appeal and Microsoft ended up settling with a much less adverse Georgie W Bush administration that had taken over during the course of the lawsuit which was initially brought by the Clinton Administration.

    *Disclaimer, I work for Microsoft (less than a year). Facts are facts though. Otherwise I enjoyed the conversation!

  14. I suggest you a video. Watch this short video for results on intelligence and the self that even philosophy and psychology professors haven't achieved yet. The name of the video is WHAT IS TABULA RASA? WHAT IS IQ INTELLIGENCE? WHAT IS THE CORRELATION BETWEEN THEM?

  15. Some of these theories are not solely the property of the Stoics. The 4 cardinal virtues, for example, are also supported by the bible and by the traditional Catholic understanding, as explicated in Catholic Catechisms and the teachings of the Fathers, especially Thomas Aquinas

  16. Empathy has been weaponised by the NZ Prime Minister whose mantra, Be Kind, underlies her government's intentions to introduce hate speech laws. These apparently will boil down to targeting anti-religious speech, in other words they'll be blasphemy laws. We will be forced to be kind to religious oppression and persecution.

  17. Actually, there is a company proposing using technology to grow human babies in "pods" so that females are no longer needed to gestate. So Dr. Pigliucci could in fact soon do that experiment on nature/nurture.

  18. I loved to hear his distaste for Elon. I also think that man is highly overrated. He is not a dumb idiot obviously, very smart even! But he is a colossal manchild put on a pedestal by his disciples, where he really doesn't belong. I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of those disciples would be triggered enough by this comment to insult me because there are no greater fanatics on the internet (apart from possibly the fanatics of Trump, Jordan Peterson, Michael Jackson, Oasis and Beyoncé… but they're all in the same ballpark).

    I thought this was one of your better episodes in a while! Great one, thanks!

  19. At the most fundamental biological factors are responsible for the will and individual goal direction. All aspects of ethical desire, willpower, capability to learn, memory, etc. come down to biological factors like genes, microbiome, brain structure, blood pressure, natal/prenatal development, etc. I have met people who have no capability or desire for ethical reasoning and others who might but lack the ability to regulate their emotions and impulsivity due to brain injuries. Free will is an illusion. Under certain environmental conditions people will respond according to their biological program. Even seeming restraint is the result of biological factors. There is no escaping it. Free will and stoicism in general are based on the Greek ideas of platonic forms and truths that exist beyond the material world which have been proven false both by reason and science.

  20. Starts the interview preaching against tribalism, ends the interview being completely tribal about politics.

    "I hold that no man has treated mankind worse than he who has studied philosophy as if it were some marketable trade, who lives in a different manner from that which he advises. For those who are liable to every fault which they castigate advertise themselves as patterns of useless training."

    – Seneca, a Stoic writer.

  21. His opening remarks are somewhat reminiscent of the Unabomber manifesto. I'm sure there's more nuance on the way. I eagerly await his content & take on the benefits of Stoicism for a better life. Wost days are behind me, better days ahead. Onward and upward.

  22. I have approached the headmistress of my kids' school to consider approaching philosophy as a teaching subject.
    I talked about Socrates' habit of questioning everything – even the status quo because given the how asleep people have been during covid times… people need to have the impulse to question.

    She seemed fairly interested.

  23. For a long time I've been thinking that what we're desperately missing in our society and education is the basics of morality and wisdom. We're like teenagers who rejected their parents rule and imagined we could now do anything we wanted. Yes we can do anything but lack of values and wisdom brings about sad and often terrible consequences. It's time for us to mature as a species. To become wiser. I keep my fingers crossed for us 🙂 Great guest, great interview, thank you all!

  24. Ugggh. He got through the whole hour appearing to be an objective stoic and philosopher whom I'm proud to have as a colleague in my university system (I also teach in CUNY) only to expose himself as a biased leftist in the last five minutes.

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