STOP Pushing Psychiatric Drugs On Teenagers | Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

Saagar dives into the surge in psychiatric drug prescriptions for teenagers dealing with mental health difficulties and obesity that could have far reaching side effects

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  1. I've been saying for years there's a correlation between the increase of mass shooters and the increase of paid doctors and lazy parents feeding these kids monkey dope

  2. This is a great segment Sagaar!! Let's call it what it is America is obese. We are suffering from diabetes, high blood pressure, depression. All of these can be solved by eating healthy and exercising.

  3. Thanks for covering this issue!
    Please cover the benzodiazepine over prescription issue. The LARGE benzo-injured community won a recent victory by getting a boxed warning requirement on labels. But WAY too late for tens of thousands.

  4. I saw this recently. I'm a disabled vet and have been on a bunch of different pills for depression, anxiety, etc… For years. Now I'm looking at another change the Dr said. There is good research for psychodelics helping, but good luck getting the VA to look at that. I'm ready to just stop, safely and take my chances. If I die, I die. Better by my hands then my mind melting away with all the pills they push.

  5. I get it. But I'm 18 been on low dose concerta for two years and it really helps me. Since I've been on it I excercise when I used to just lie in bed all day. My schoolwork has gotten better. I only get scared when people say you can do it without the meds. I know what life was like without it…it sucked.

  6. When children are removed from their parents home by social workers the very first thing they do is get the child a medical card, an appointment w/the psychiatrist and prescriptions to modify their behaviors. I worked in the court system w/juveniles for 20 years and for the last 10 years we tracked meds the kids were taking. When the parent/school complains about further behaviors the meds are increased or changed to the newest one out. Medical cards paid for a lot of this insanity. The schools are part of the problem for insisting parents take the child to mental health therapists who put the kids on meds as well.

  7. As a left leaning progressive I'm generally in disagreement with you Saagar, but on this subject I think you are spot on. As a person who struggles with mental health issues and is in the mental health matrix I am certain that 1. the psychiatric drugs do a lot of bad things for people's health with their negative side effects 2. Patients are more often than not pressured to take them not just by psychiatric system but also by family and society culture in general 3. people are not skeptical or questioning the effects of the meds, it is considered heresy to criticize these drugs 4. we are not investing enough in exploring or facilitating broader options of therapy and treatment.

  8. There is no innocence anymore. Politics, Covid, sexuality, social media, sports, have no time to be kids. I am a middle school teacher for 25 years…they are so broken and lost. Just to paint a picture, I am a 240 pound weight lifter, PE Teacher and Football coach. I am as far away from those stereotypes as you could fathom. They do not speak to each other, they live in these isolated digital fantasy worlds and are so alone. The athletic kids are being taught the worst lessons and their parents are fueling it. I make sure I speak to every single student every day…"what did you do this weekend?" "Nothing" "stayed in my room" "watched netflix" "played video games" "had a travel tournament" "played 6 baseball games" I never hear them say…"had a sleep over", "rode bikes", "played games with my parents". Kids need social interaction, physical activity, natural stimulation, in person conversation, disagreements, falling and getting up. Drugs cannot replace these things but big pharma and government want to. It is so sad to witness.

  9. The science shows diet and exercise treatment depression as well as or better than prescription drugs. It also shows that people largely don't take advice to make lifestyle changes and largely will take a pill.

  10. Keep telling the truth about this large-scale scam against society, Sagaar! I was in a clinical trial for Effexor XR. I was kicked out after only a few months because the dose I would have needed to stop feeling all the terrible things I was feeling (a result of life events, not bad brain chemistry) would have been higher than insurance companies would have paid for, and that's what the studies are REALLY about, how to get insurance to pay for it, not how well it "works." When they dismissed me, the psychiatrist leading the study said that I wasn't "crazy" and would get better overnight if my husband went to jail. He said that is what worked for the rest of his patients. But before they kicked me out of an anxiety study for being too nervous, I became physically addicted. So I had to find a dr. who would prescribe it, and the guy did so only reluctantly, knowing it was very hard to get off of it. The damage this drug did in my life can't be quantified, but among its highlights: putting 90lb on me in 9 mo (which led to a knee injury that has caused permanent damage), a heart condition, severed relations with all the people I acted "odd" around during those years, and a hoarding problem that I have since resolved. These drugs are not predictable. It's not like we are measuring the "brain chemistry" we are trying to "fix." The doctors are guessing based on behavior and reported feelings (you know those lists where you describe your feelings with a number? Who is to say my "9" is not your "2?" Just because there are numbers does not make it math!) They have more side effects than effects. And the doctors know that there is a strong placebo effect AND the positive response of emotionally neglected patients when there is someone validating their problems. We have no idea what these pills do.

  11. I'm in the psychiatric section of my medical school right now and it is very clear the downplaying of side effects and that pills are the only answer. I guess the only thing I would counter with is, people won't be happy if they go to a doctor appt for depression and the doctor just tells them to do lifestyle changes. And of course, the people searching for depression medication probably are the least likely to make those lifestyle modifications and therefore prescribing the medications will eventually have to be done.

  12. Sagaar please stop. You dont know what you are talking about. Currently the American association of pediatrics declared we are in a mental health emergency. This does not happen every day. Where i live in Boston last year at the children's hospital 72% of admission were psychiatric. To say that drugs are just thrown on teens is so ignorant. Dont just project ur experiences dealing with the vicissitudes and pressures of life as an adult with teens or anyone with mental illness. Mental illness is real. If you had any experience with pediatric medicine u would see how wrong you are. Have you ever spent time with someone with anorexia? Or worked in the prison systems and seen the systemic mental health issues overlooked that contribute to mass incarceration? Or have u ever seen someone with catatonia, depression, or psychosis. Do you know that these are real health concerns for teens?

  13. Psychedelics was the solution for my anxiety. Can't say I recommend it for teens with developing minds, but at 25 it was more than exercise or SSRIs ever provided. I was heavily involved in sports so I was in good shape most of my life. Getting a full 8-hours sleep is also deeply helpful for me. I didn't appreciate that for a long time.

  14. This is such an important story, hopefully to be followed up with rampant misdiagnosis and overdiagnosis of psychiatric disorders for behavioral differences.

  15. I was given Paxil at 14 because I had panic attacks at school when public speaking. At 34 I was put on seroquel for anxiety. It gave me type 2 diabetes. I’ve had enough. Doctors think I’m difficult. I hope so. I’ll never know who I would have become and now I’ll probably die faster than I would have.

  16. We might be able to stop this over prescribing if we're ok with no longer suing docs for teen suicide. You're putting yourself at massive liability if you go with therapy + monitoring and kid kills him/herself. The doc js screwed against a lawyer who argues that they shouldve done more

  17. Gee I wonder if this has anything to do with all these school shootings? At least 85% of these shootings these kids were on these drugs or had been taken off of these drugs. And I can remember seeing the commercials for these drugs at the very end they all said symptoms may include suicidal thoughts to yourself and others. No ones putting two and two together here? Our government created these mass shootings

  18. My mom started getting bad headaches, so they prescribed her an antidepressant that has headaches as a side effect, and said to double the dosage in 2 weeks for literally no reason… then they gave her a 5 day medicine that actually was meant to treat headaches and that actually worked. They also told her the SSRI was non-addictive which is a lie, and she looked it up when I told her and decided not to take it. Sad to think she'd have been taking this the rest of her life for no reason if I hadn't tried to convince her otherwise. Apparently they get by using the term "discontinuation syndrome" instead of withdrawal and can thus say they aren't addictive… total BS.

  19. I used to do psychadelic drugs, and at one point got prescribed an SSRI. I felt more schizo'd out and uncomftorable from the SSRI than I ever felt from recreational drugs. Atleast with psychadelics, you know to expect to feel a bit crazy and know it'll wear off after a day and you're back to normal. SSRIs made me feel numb and have hallucinations after the first day, so the idea of taking that everyday for a long time is terrifying. The idea of taking any drug every day is terrifying, and the fact that people don't bat an eye at daily SSRI dosages, especially for children, is especially terrifying.

  20. Great report! Thank you, Saagar! I've been complaining for years about the medical establishment's routine and often overbearing drug pushing approach for treating mental illness and ADHD, especially concerning children. Obviously, improvements to lifestyle (nutrition, sleep, the family, social & learning environments) should be the first line of defense. Pills have been administered like a roll of the dice, like dumping oil on an engine in need of repair.

  21. I'm glad this segment exists. One point of disagreement: the doctors do talk about diet, exercise, and sleep, people don't do it at nearly the rate they will do the pills. In my experience as a former provider and patient.

  22. Far right wingers claim that SSRI's are to blame for American gun violence btw. Interesting footnote to keep in mind when considering why a right wing commentator is concerned for SSRI's.

  23. In the 90s these drugs were pushed on kids at a higher frequency and the spree shootings epidemic occurred during that time period. I've only seen one study into any connection.

  24. Whilst I agree with many points here and in the US too many drugs are being prescribed it is important to nuance how clinical depression can only rarely be cured with physical exercice and diet. Unfortunately it just doesn’t work like that. If the response to drugs would be so easy we wouldnt have it here as much in europe.

  25. So, the thing is… there are many, many medications out there for which we don't know exactly how they work – especially for something as complex as the brain – beyond the observation that they do. That's part of the reason why healthcare services can't always predict what undesirable side effects a medication will cause. Just because we don't fully know how something works doesn't mean we shouldn't use it – case in point being general anaesthetic agents. We still don't properly understand how the most popular general anaesthetic agents put us to sleep and I'd venture to guess people aren't proposing we stop all surgery under general anaesthesia.

    And while lifestyle changes can definitely help improve one's mental health. For many, there is a legitimate psychosocial reason (as opposed to biological/brain chemistry issue) for them to feel low in mood or to be worried about something; whether it is being dissatisfied with one's appearance, stressing about one's studies or relationship issues, or being overwhelmed by growing debt as examples. The problem arise in part that for those worst affected by mental health issues, they can be so debilitated that people will struggle to have the concentration, motivation, and/or energy to do and sustain the heavy lifting needed to make those changes described. Another is the availability of treatment options. Therapy may work for some mental health issues, however they are costly and there is often not enough qualified therapists to meet demand. The advantage of medication here is that they tend to be much more readily available, convenient and cheaper (time and money) in the short-term.

    Also, as anyone who has been for psychological therapy can attest, one often feels actively worse after a therapy session when one first starts. Which is why therapists do often recommend people be at least in a reasonably better place and not at their worst when they start therapy. Also, people will only be starting to feel better by the end of therapy which would be after several months. Where as with medicine, people do report starting to feel better after a few weeks. So, there is a time factor to consider as well.

    Indeed, in ideal world settings, most mental health professionals only recommend medication being used in tandem on top of making the necessary lifestyle changes and psychological therapy (for conditions they are recognised to work for).

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