Where would we be without the vaccines?

Bret speaks with Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche in Bath, England, together for the COVID Better Way Conference 2022.
Geert Vanden Bossche is a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine who has specialist expertise in virology and vaccinology, Geert has worked in industry in the construction of vaccines, and in the non profit sector working to bring immunity to larger numbers of people.
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  1. I wish we we could go back and protect the vulnerable more directly. Seemed like the state, the universities, the institution and every company on Earth all wanted to push the vaccines, by threat of imprisonment in some countries… oh well I guess

  2. I live in Japan, and ivermectin has been used by people in the know. I have it, my doctor used it, some friends used it, and I know of three different pharmacists who used it. It’s just not common knowledge.

  3. I know so many people in their 60’s, 70’, and 80’s who have gotten horrible side effects from the Covid shot! They are having to live with it. It infuriates me that the president of the United States was treated by the military (not video doctors); yet, the medicine was turned into a political football!

  4. Is Dr. Gert implying that if we hadn't been vaccinated, the variants would not have survived and the pandemic would be behind us? I did not get the clot shots, but I'm pretty sure that people have been saying ( maybe even Bret?) that vaccinating during the pandemic was one of the most stupid moves that anyone could've made? This goes back to the fact that it was all deliberate.

  5. I increasingly wonder on whose side people are working on. Even people who are ostensibly working on the side of the people.
    I increasingly hear "oh this thing IS real. It IS dangerous. We DO need to address it." Not in comments or tweets, but from prominent speakers.
    I keep hearing Fear Porn. From the same mouths that say all the right things so you go, Yeah! You tell 'em! *EXACTLY like politicians.*
    They reel you in with rallying rhetoric. And then you realize, hmm, are they actually working for the very systems they decry?

  6. The tools they shouted down my husband and I used.we have higher BMI.high blood pressure,age 50s and I’m immune compromised we had a mild to moderate cases. Why what were we doing. We listened to Med-Cram updates,32,34,59. On update 59 was about Quercetin,zinc,C and D. Quercetin gets zinc into the cell to stop virus duplication. Zinc can’t get into the cell by itself it needs Quercetin a zinc ionofore. We started taking it April 2020 got covid19 in December 2020 and did great,able to eat and get fluids and not laid up and didn’t have to go to the ER. We did have headaches my husband had fever I did not and we were queazy for 2 1/2 days. We take it ongoing. It helps against any virus. All 4 supplements are in food as well. I think of all the people that would not have died if they knew about this. Hydroxychloroquine is a zinc ionofore as well. But this was a natural remedy.there are all kinds of studies on Quercetin and zinc

  7. The panicked measures of lock down were applied most likely because the heads of states across the globe, most likely, WERE told right away that the virus was man-made, from the lab and with the gain of function. I.e., normal prophylaxis was not applicable (?) But to block the treatment that MDs had proof was working — CRIMINAL.

  8. Well I remember in grade school that vaccines were saving African deaths, in my Weekly Reader. I'm same age as Bill Gates. Now all of a sudden to many people live on earth. Per bill Gates. Did he read his weekly reader. I grew up in country just north of King County.

  9. Less dead healthy people and less people with permanent effects after the release of toxins in their blood. We would have a solid belief still in science, science now is a dirty word, trust the science they say.

  10. So let people just catch a virus that probably is made in a lab with many long term riscs? Crazy. This is no normal virus.
    Distance and masks is the only protection at the moment till we got good vaccines because that is the only solution in the future. It is a shame that someone like Geert talks like this.

  11. How did so many fall for this scam? Who truly believes that flu takes a holiday for 12 months? These past few years have been excruciating to live through.

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